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Post by chrisdawnwatts on Jul 10, 2012 18:15:07 GMT -5
I don't recall the actual episode, but it was when the 2nd Mass was planing to do the large attack against the skitters/mechs towards the end of season 1. They had used the mech Armour to create bullets that were very effective against mechs.
What ever happened to them? Maybe I missed the conversation about it in the show but I don't recall them talking about not being able to make them anymore? Sorry if I am asking something that has already been talked about here or on the show. I have received a concussion in the army and I have reoccurring memory problems. It sucks, trust me.
Also, I am new to the forum and so far I am loving it. Nice community here!
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Post by dregj on Jul 23, 2012 20:11:45 GMT -5
yeah i thought it was really stupid as well
one of the producers said he hated the magic bullet he wanted the 2nd mass to defeat the aliens with ingenuity
i thought the bullets were a genius idea
he tried to explain it that they had no more bullets since they left the school
i would have thought that the first thing they would have packed up the bullet making apparatus
stupid makes no sense#
if it carries on like this well end up with 5 seasons of them getting their asses kicked followed by a giant unsatisfying DEUX EX at the end
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Post by chrisdawnwatts on Jul 29, 2012 16:54:46 GMT -5
Yea the Mech bullets were a great idea as far as people go. For a season though, it would be to easy to defend and destroy the aliens with the new ammo and would make for lower ratings and a quicker end to the season since it would be so easy to defeat them. Thanks for the update  Chris |
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Post by dregj on Aug 2, 2012 9:41:18 GMT -5
i never thought the mech bullets were all that great
they used loads defeating that one mech outside the school
it didnt give them the advantage or a way to win
it just evened the odds a bit
and the way the characters just ignored the fact that mech bullets ever existed is just really stupid
theres no scouts or scavengers looting the surrounding area for tools to make more bullets
no discussion about wouldn't it be nice if we had bullets that hurt the enemy
they just seemed to say "oh well lets go back to dying"
this was a grade A gold standard d*ck move
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Post by commanderjst on Aug 2, 2012 15:32:27 GMT -5
Someone in Season 2 stated that the aliens countered the jamming signal that Ben and the teacher/scientist from season 1 developed (rest his soul). As for the Mech bullets, I liked the idea of them developing the Mech Bullets all thanks to Matt for his idea. But you have to look at it in Season 2 style. 2nd Mass is on the run. No time to develop more mech bullets aka Mike-Mike Bullet as called by Dai in 2x02. So id say they tried to get through and used a majority amount in 2x01 in that ambush in the beginning. So they never had the time to make more mech bullets and being on the run to avoid being exterminated never gave them the time. And the constant Beamer patrol prevented them from trying to collect the Mech Bullets to convert it to work with the guns they have.
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Post by aldenata on Aug 6, 2012 23:21:11 GMT -5
It's really not *that* hard to cast your own bullets and pack your own ammo. If they ain't reloading ANY cartridges, they probably would have run out a long time ago. So the explanation for why they dropped the mech-metal bullets doesn't really hold water.
Then again, neither do mech-metal bullets. I'm don't know that much about physics but I know some people who do and they've more-or-less confirmed my belief that denser slugs would quickly become superfluous in small arms; law of diminishing returns and all. They may even do more harm than good: giving poorer flightpaths, requiring more propellant, etc. This is why we're willing to use depleted uranium for our tank shells but good old fashioned lead is still sufficient for rifles.
So, if your standard .50 BMG ain't quite doing the job (unlikely; if conventional hand grenades can damage mechs then heavy machine gun and even some dangerous game rounds should also be reasonably effective) then it might be worth your while to go melt a mech. Otherwise I think there's little mechmetal could do that terrestrial metals couldn't.
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Post by dregj on Aug 12, 2012 17:11:32 GMT -5
obviously mech metal was fairy magic when it comes to the laws of physics
but they introduced it!
decided they didn't like it !
and then just ignored it!
and came up with lazy third rate excuses
as to why they don't have em any more
i find almost as annoying as ds9
when you could never see the shields on the ships when they get attacked
you could see em in tng and voyager
but for some reason ds9 just ignored em
and had orange explosion on the hull of the defiant
UN inventing something because you dont like it is
sign of a terrible self indulgent bad show maker
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Post by dregj on Aug 15, 2012 19:03:43 GMT -5
anyway
now their in charlston they definitely have the "infra structure"
and know how to manufacture more mech bullets.
I cant wait to see what rubbish excuse the producers come out with next
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Post by dregj on Aug 15, 2012 19:11:50 GMT -5
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Post by aldenata on Aug 16, 2012 16:17:42 GMT -5
anyway now their in charlston they deficiently have the "infra structure" and know how to manufacture more mech bullets. I cant wait to see what rubbish excuse the producers come out with next They don't need an excuse. Mech bullets don't exist anymore, and in fact never existed (those who say otherwise are simply confused; bb make goodthink fullwise), that's just the way retcons work. Plenty of shows have done it. Stargate SG-1 got rid of the zat gun's ability to disintegrate corpses and objects because the potential for mischief was so blatant that the main characters would have to be idiots not to use it. There's no shame in having a retcon when you realize that you've made a boo boo. |
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Post by dregj on Aug 19, 2012 16:55:44 GMT -5
MOST retcons are the devil
like wolverines bone claws
or hal jordan/ paralax
or asm one more day
(theres probably a few quite positive example as well they cant all be bad)
i suppose i hold the show to a higher standard than most
and am dispointed with them pulling this.
and of course the lame-o tenth rate reason they gave that doesnt hold water
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Post by dregj on Oct 22, 2012 18:07:52 GMT -5
maybe they'll retcon the whole invasion next it'll all be a dream
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Post by dregj on Jun 9, 2013 11:23:23 GMT -5
Spoilers
I here they've now got advanced weapons from the bat face aliens (Coc cheese)
who now looks completely different?
so really now what was the point?was it better to be just given the advanced weapons than make em
them selves using human ingenuity?
this is probably what happens when they keep switching producers
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Post by dregj on Aug 22, 2016 7:39:27 GMT -5
yeah i thought it was really stupid as well one of the producers said he hated the magic bullet he wanted the 2nd mass to defeat the aliens with ingenuity i thought the bullets were a genius idea he tried to explain it that they had no more bullets since they left the school i would have thought that the first thing they would have packed up the bullet making apparatus stupid makes no sense# if it carries on like this well end up with 5 seasons of them getting their asses kicked followed by a giant unsatisfying DEUX EX at the end Dam i hate it when im right |
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