croman
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Post by croman on Jun 20, 2011 10:13:26 GMT -5
How is it that platoons of hundreds of civilian and pseudo military can just casually walk / drive down a main street, in broad daylight, and not be seen by the alien extermination squads?
2.bp.blogspot.com/_-uUkf_pHt-Y/TC9roEb9iqI/AAAAAAAAFZo/9PEF8w5j3GE/s1600/falling_skies_12_noah_wyle_phken_woroner.jpgThe alien tower is massive! How could they, with all of their advanced technologies, not detect movement on that scale, during the day?  Are the skitters Vampiric? I only saw mechs with the human slaves. This show could be great but they need to break away from the syfy channel writing and make it a bit more believable. |
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Post by darksparrow on Jun 20, 2011 10:24:43 GMT -5
Why are you assuming they can 'see', rather than sense?
They say that the mechs AND the skitters lock onto their targets by body heat, and from what they said in the pilot, they can detect them only when they're in huge numbers. It used to be over 600 people but now they're 'learning' to detect 500,600 people too.
Since they're less than 300 people in the platoon, 'technically' they shouldn't be detectable- Maybe they don't generate enough heat?
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Post by croman on Jun 20, 2011 10:38:49 GMT -5
Yeah, understood, but think about it. The technology they utilized to get here, and I'm just talking sensor abilities, through space / time whatever, would need to be able to detect much more than heat! Get my point?
So advanced yet so ignorant? Supposed they could not see, the skitters that is, why would they create the mechs in their image? When we send probes out to space we equip them for thing we could not detect with our own sense right? And we're pretty stone aged by the Skitters standards!
We have drones in our airforce over iraq, afghanistan, etc... that can detect a rabbit running through a bush.
These writers really need to beef it up a bit in my opinion and realize that most scifi viewers expect more.
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Post by darksparrow on Jun 20, 2011 10:41:44 GMT -5
Just because it's the way we'd do it if we were to send technology into space, doesn't mean it's the only way it can be done. (Not spoilers, just speculation)
We don't KNOW that the skitters created the mechs. we don't know ANYTHING about them, that's the point.
And I think they're planning on answering a lot of those questions and filling a lot of these holes, from what I've read so far. Including the whole 'who created who' and how the aliens got here and why and using what technology, exactly. The thing is, they have to start at ground zero, knowing nothing, guessing everything. And if the aliens are your typical 'super advanced technologically creatures' in the pilot, they won't stay that way for long. Get my point?
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Post by claired80 on Jun 22, 2011 1:28:09 GMT -5
There's something I've been wondering: can you really hold 6 months with only the food that you can find in shops? Sort of 'good thing' it's only a small part of the population left...  or they would all be starving. And they can't keep going on like that just on what's left in shops or even factories for ever. They have to start growing plants at a point (or at least trying to use what's left in fields), breeding, well... just starting back agriculture from scratch. It's maybe not a very scifi theme, but I hope they will address questions like that.  We saw here and there in the pilot that food was a problem, so I'm hopeful that they won't forget about 'realistic' points like that. |
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Post by darksparrow on Jun 22, 2011 4:15:41 GMT -5
Well, keep in mind they didn't exist AS A GROUP for half a year.  For individuals to get by with stuff they scavange from houses and smaller shops isn't too difficult. Only when the numbers of survivors start growing, that's when it becomes necessary to brave the big department stores... Canned foods and soups... even canned meat. No fresh meat or fish, after a while, but canned Tuna and sardines are enough to provide basic nutrients keep them from starving. As for fruits and vegetables... Well... I dunno. They must be constipated as hell? And yes, I suppose they'd be starving. That thing Matt was eating for his birthday looked pretty fresh, though... That's true, in the long run. The problem now, though, is that they're on the move. Since they're not actually 'settling' there, but rather it's a temporary camp, and they must be ready to flee at any minute, I don't suppose they'd attempt to grow anything there. Who knows, maybe they can take over some plantations or something... Also makes you wonder if the aliens spared the livestock--- y'know, cows, chickens... Though I suspect most would have starved to death by now. And I don't suppose you'd find many farms in the city of Boston.  |
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Post by claired80 on Jun 22, 2011 4:44:44 GMT -5
Well, keep in mind they didn't exist AS A GROUP for half a year. Yeah, I agree, but it's still a certain amount of people having to live out of a finite quantity of food. Once a shop has been visited by other people before you, there's not much you can do. Lol! indeed... thus the hemorrhoids mention? Oh you know, american food can be amazing. (I remember a site where someone was posting weekly pictures of some bread or something... Didn't change aspect in the slightest bit in over a year :  Using more preservatives than flour in a cake can do wonders! ;D By the way, I imagine there was one little cupcake for Matt only, and later on you see Lourdes finishing it. I like tiny signs like that in a show ;D. Like Matt letting other kids play with his ripstik. Generous little guy, it seems Hmmm... good question. They are obviously aware that humans need their food, since they use shops as traps. Or they just notice that humans tend to go there, without knowing why? They could as well have destroyed all the grocery stores and food. But I guess it's obvious already that their intent wasn't to kill everybody... |
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Post by pimpernelperson on Jun 29, 2011 15:29:23 GMT -5
Well, keep in mind they didn't exist AS A GROUP for half a year. For individuals to get by with stuff they scavange from houses and smaller shops isn't too difficult. Only when the numbers of survivors start growing, that's when it becomes necessary to brave the big department stores... Canned foods and soups... even canned meat. No fresh meat or fish, after a while, but canned Tuna and sardines are enough to provide basic nutrients keep them from starving. As for fruits and vegetables... Well... I dunno. They must be constipated as hell? And yes, I suppose they'd be starving. That thing Matt was eating for his birthday looked pretty fresh, though... That's true, in the long run. The problem now, though, is that they're on the move. Since they're not actually 'settling' there, but rather it's a temporary camp, and they must be ready to flee at any minute, I don't suppose they'd attempt to grow anything there. Who knows, maybe they can take over some plantations or something... Also makes you wonder if the aliens spared the livestock--- y'know, cows, chickens... Though I suspect most would have starved to death by now. And I don't suppose you'd find many farms in the city of Boston. Well, I'm vegan, and when I travel I pack a lot of dried beans/legumes (lentils, peas, etc.), rice, quinoa, etc. Stuff that doesn't go bad and can be stored in large quantities. All of it (except for the rice) has sufficient protein (therefore, no need to raise livestock or hunt). Pope said that they have a lot of beans (protein) and rice (grain) on hand. So really, their only problem is fruits and vegetables. I would imagine that some people in Boston have fruit trees, though. So that leaves vegetables, which are really a problem. They take time and care to grow, which really isn't practical for people who are constantly on the move. |
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Post by aldenata on Sept 29, 2011 8:56:05 GMT -5
Answer to original poster: they do that because it's cool. Scruffy-looking heavily-armed folks exposing themselves in an area of limited cover while expecting to be shot at is a scene that's been with us for as long as those 1950's westerns, and I don't expect it to go away any time soon.
Wish it would though. If you want to see how far that kind of brazenness would get you in a real disaster zone, try taking an oblivious stroll down your nearest MLK St.
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Post by aldenata on Sept 29, 2011 9:07:21 GMT -5
Well, I'm vegan, and when I travel I pack a lot of dried beans/legumes (lentils, peas, etc.), rice, quinoa, etc. Stuff that doesn't go bad and can be stored in large quantities. All of it (except for the rice) has sufficient protein (therefore, no need to raise livestock or hunt). Pope said that they have a lot of beans (protein) and rice (grain) on hand. So really, their only problem is fruits and vegetables. I would imagine that some people in Boston have fruit trees, though. So that leaves vegetables, which are really a problem. They take time and care to grow, which really isn't practical for people who are constantly on the move. Tomatoes grown in tires and trashcans could help bring some vegetables to the diet, though I doubt you could ever scale it up to feed 300. Speaking as an avid gardener and forager myself, I just don't see how you do both and still have the time or calories for waging guerrilla warfare. ...though if skitters are edible, that might change the situation. |
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or they would all be starving.
Using more preservatives than flour in a cake can do wonders! ;D
