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Post by commanderjst on Jul 10, 2011 22:39:08 GMT -5
Hello all, Im not sure if you watched the last 2 episodes. I loved them both. The things that have me confused is the following: In episode (I think) 3, where they took the harness off that kid the first run, it was successful until he put it back on. Now If i remember, If you attempt to remove the harness by hand, it kills the kid. In the recent episode, the kid was very much alive. I mean how can he live when his dad removed the harness by hand shortly after his son put it back on? What do you think?? Second question is this. In the recent Episode, when they saved the harnessed kids. Shortly after 5 of the harnessed kids was saved and one died (God rest his soul. At least he dies free.), Ben wakes up and remembers everything. The first kid to be saved didnt remember his dad or anything. He woke up 2 days later. Ben woke up few hours later without having to take the meds the first kid did. How did this happen? ? Those are the 2 questions that has me puzzled. I would like to see what you all think?? Thank you.
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Post by darksparrow on Jul 11, 2011 1:22:49 GMT -5
Well, I haven't actually seen episode 5 yet, but I'll give it a shot. At least the first question, since it's been bugging me all week. I was sure, too, that Rick would die when his father ripped that harness off. But...! From what they've explained, the harness releases an opiate. Ripping it off cuts off the supply abruptly and the body goes into shock. Since they did it in a controlled manner during the surgery, and then weaned him off the morphine gradually in the hours after the surgery, the kid was pretty much 'clean' when he put the harness back on. And he'd had it on for a really short time afterwards, so how drugged could he have been, the second time around? Maybe the levels of opiates in his system were still not enough to kill him when the supply got cut off?
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Post by blackpearl1980 on Jul 11, 2011 7:12:20 GMT -5
I agree with darksparrow, it takes speciall drugs and the harness been cut off carefully of, so the kids survive...the other children, who died in the pilot, i think they haven`t found out by this time, how to make it right...
Second question, i think that was because the Skitter who controlled Ben was dead...and the Skitter who controlled Rick was still alive and nearby...maybe that is an explanation...
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Post by claired80 on Jul 11, 2011 7:42:05 GMT -5
Agree on the first question... The harness was back on just for a little time. Probably not enough to totally 'hook up' the kid. But the second, I don't know. I guess it'll be 'wait and see'. I sure hope that it's addressed in future episodes, and that we see for instance Ben and Rick interacting a bit Among the questions still left open concerning the harness, I can't see yet either why the skitters seem to care about the kids, but are also able to have them executed...
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Post by commanderjst on Jul 11, 2011 8:15:09 GMT -5
It seems like the Skitters uses the kids as slaves. I sure hope they beat the aliens back and free the kids since i hate seeing them like that.
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Post by darksparrow on Jul 11, 2011 8:30:55 GMT -5
Maybe the skitter that was guarding the kids was different somehow, nicer, or else the skitter that ordered the kids executed was a jerk even in skitter terms. I suppose character plays a role here. Or maybe we're missing something here. As for the second question, now that I watched the episode (yay) I can try to answer that one, too. When Rick woke up he was still under the influence of the skitter, even though the harness was removed. It wasn't until after the skitter was dead that he actually 'woke up' for real. I suppose, like Silke said, that once the skitter is dead, the communication is cut off. So by the time the kids were brought to the clinic, they were well off the influence of the skitter, AND they were starting to go into withdrawal because the drug supply had been stopped, but they could have given them a low dose of morphine to prevent them from going into serious shock. And they got the same 'meds' as Rick did. The timing of it can be explained by differences in metabolism. Some people take a long time to recover from an anesthetic, and they wake up groggy and confused. Some people 'recover' more quickly and are more lucid upon waking up. That much is normal.
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Post by commanderjst on Jul 11, 2011 8:44:49 GMT -5
Now I understand. Now another question arises right after reading DarkSparrows post. Sorry but im full of questions and i just want to understand the whole story instead of wondering with no answers lol
Question: How was the skitter controlling Rick dead?? The skitter was still in the room which you saw Tom take down by himself.
also I liked the way Hal brought the skitter down. Now that shows he is truly a man just like his father.
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Post by darksparrow on Jul 11, 2011 9:02:20 GMT -5
You're right. You're right. I have no idea why I thought he was dead, I got confused there. My memory's gone crazy. So, maybe without the harness the skitter's ability to transmit to the kid is limited. They WERE in the same room in the last episode. Maybe the distance is key.
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Post by commanderjst on Jul 11, 2011 10:08:33 GMT -5
I think that the control over the harnessed kids changes skitters. As I recall, the skitter controlling Rick controls the other 5 harnessed kids that was with him. When Rick was taken, the 5 kids was executed. But how can the skitter control the 5 if the same skitter went after Rick. How can he control Rick if the 5 was being controlled by him. I got thinking about that and what came to me is that they might have changed host. The Command Center (the ship) might have the power to give the skitters the control. So im fairly sure the ship changed the host to the skitter in the same room. what do you think?
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Post by blackpearl1980 on Jul 14, 2011 8:01:15 GMT -5
Wow what question....i think the skitters have sophisticated skills of mind controll, maybe every skitter can controll a harness kid, even if it`s not one of his group...and they can communicate with each other over radio-transmitting, so they have maybe some sort of soldier who patrol in the area and get the signal to go after them to bring the kid back...just my cent...maybe it´s entirely diffrent....but the mother-ship-changes-host-idea...i don`t know, i can`t get used to that...
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Post by commanderjst on Jul 15, 2011 11:42:27 GMT -5
Blackpearl1980, thats one of a good explanation to that question
Every question arises after one is answered so there will be multiple questions at the end of this season which i hope will be answered. But end of every episode is always questioned.
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Post by bonafortuna on Jul 15, 2011 14:17:07 GMT -5
I have read through... so if there is repeat sorry! Skitters have 6 legs, and when Rick was rescued 5 kids died. I think they are somehow linked. It appears that a skitter needs to have 6 children under them or none. Rick was taken without his skitter dead (the one that Tom takes seems to have been another, which makes me wonder if the kids attacked to it would have died when Ann kills it). I wonder if Ben actually does remember or if he was just repeating what he had heard Hal call Tom. If he is "ok" then it's probably because his "controller" was killed.
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Post by samantha on Aug 9, 2011 13:17:10 GMT -5
Hello...I'm Samantha aka Sammy and I am new to this site. So very glad I have a place to come to. Regarding the difference between Rick and Ben I too had trouble with that and at first I thought that maybe Rick was captured much earlier then Ben and was under more of their control...but after some of the things that have come to light I now realize that can't be the answer. So for now I am considering the differences between the two boys before they were taken. Rick was ill and may have felt a bit isolated from life in general. His standard of education and his connection to family along with his up-bringing might have been totally different, hense his out-look on life, what was expected from him and his capibilities would not mesh with Ben. I don't recall his mother being mentioned or siblings so he might have been very alone. After all, dad had to go out and work. The love he craved might have been found with his captors and the other children who were part of his group. Note how he reacted when they rejected him. Also he was no longer ill do to the aliens intervention and he would have seen that as a good thing. Ben on the other hand didn't need nor want what they were offering. This may not save him but could explain his aditude. Sammy
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